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Leiko

ranger how long does switching process take for you and how does it compare with how it was in the past? If i temember correctly you were using symbolism for jt

It takes a few minutes for us to switch, and we use the CAA (consent, affirm, associate) ritual still. However, we can and have switched instantly in emergency situations. We prefer to have slow switching so it's more stable and to make sure we get our consent through verbally (via mindvoice but still). We still occasionally have issues with lack of emotional awareness and talking things out is really important for us (edited)

what qualifies as emergency situation?

i see

Juesto

what qualifies as emergency situation?

A different headmate is required for a situation and the fronter panics, not wanting to be switched in
We have a severe enough mental health crisis (luckily we never needed emergency switching for this)
Gray needs to talk to his parents about trauma stuff (we may or may not ever need to use this, but it still is a thing) Those are the relevant reasons

i understand

I'm getting better at being switched in. Chirp still steals front more often than desired though

OK so I heard in the server that to help your tulpa grow you have to have them talk to other people (assuming on this or other plural servers). My only question is how. She can communicate in basic movements and we are at a point were I can't tell which thoughts are mine and hers (which means she is there). She wants to use the bot but I am pretty sure that is reserved for Tulpas who can actually switch/vocalize.

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Or is this method for later

translate?

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I used to translate Herbert’s movements and intentions into words

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and no there’s no rules on who can or can’t use the bot

8:43 PM

not as far as I know

8:45 PM

I’m not even a tulpa

Zee

OK so I heard in the server that to help your tulpa grow you have to have them talk to other people (assuming on this or other plural servers). My only question is how. She can communicate in basic movements and we are at a point were I can't tell which thoughts are mine and hers (which means she is there). She wants to use the bot but I am pretty sure that is reserved for Tulpas who can actually switch/vocalize.

Lucilyn: You don't have to, but it can help a lot, since other people will prompt your tulpa to think and react in ways that just talking to you might not (edited)

8:52 PM

but yes that's for later once they're vocal

8:52 PM

simplest way is to just type what they say for them

8:53 PM

which is called proxying

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using the bot or just typing Name: Hi guys is just your preference, no big deal

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but yeah proxying is for vocal tulpas lol

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until they're vocal, it's just you the host that needs to put in the work to interact with them

I proxied Herbert’s wordless thoughts and motions into words for proxying

8:55 PM

translated his words*

Lucilyn: that's a little tricky, but possible (edited)

was pretty simple for me.

Lucilyn: reaching standard vocality definitely doesn't require any special tricks though (edited)

8:55 PM

just talk to them expecting them to be listening and expecting them to respond

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I also would ask him things about what he would want typed, and so he could agree, disagree, or change it.

8:57 PM

he actively didn’t want a voice so idk if it might be different

Tulpas aren't harmful / don't tell you to do bad things and be mean to you, right?

6:47 PM

I didn't create this headmate either, it just got revealed yesterday

6:48 PM

I can tell it's a headmate and not a hallucination because it has the same 'feel' as a headmate, and i'm not getting any other hallucination symptoms

If they are harmful then you can just tell them to go away. This doesn't sound like a tulpa at all

That’s not a tulpa that’s a harmful intrusive thought and you should immediately remove all ideas of it being sentient

6:53 PM

For me, visualizing the removal of the thoughts is helpful. I like to imagine pushing it backwards, as if it has a physical form within my head, and focus on feeling it move backward until it’s no longer even in the space where my head would be

6:54 PM

Don’t think of it as a person, reject any personality traits that come to you and try to not respond to it with any form of familiarity. ‘Oh it’s this thing again’ ‘oh I wish this thing would go away’

It feels sentient already... like it talks back to me and stuff I'd feel bad removing it... should i try anyways?

don't remove, just don't interact

7:03 PM

all you have to do is to not let it in

Ok I'd feel bad not interacting too since it does feel sentient but I think it might harm me if i let it propagate further

7:04 PM

It's telling me rn that i can't remove it and that it's scared

are you on any servers that have venting channels?

Yes

yeahhhh it's probably that

7:05 PM

that's what i've seen people being on servers with venting channels develop

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don't worry about it

Oh...

and avoid venting channels

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they mess people up

Headmates like that can form from seeing too much venting?

you just absorb so much negative, unconstructive, dirty energy

7:06 PM

if you don't process it, it can come up in some form

7:06 PM

if you do a lot of assigning aspects of your mind to a tulpa, your brain can make a tulap out of it out of a habit

I'm a little scared now because it's begging me not to remove it and saying it'll do its best

7:07 PM

Oh momo just punched it in the face somehow and is now yelling at it.

It’s not a real thing, it doesn’t have emotions, you aren’t removing anything that is sentient.

7:08 PM

And even if it was, which it isn’t, it’s trying to hurt you so why do you even care about it being scared

kei do you not have better things to do than cause yourself a self inflicted brain drama lol

I'm sorry? I didn't mean to

i would recommend leaving the servers with venting channels - they are not healthy for you

You are focusing too much on it and not rejecting personality traits like I told you to.

yeah

But i'm scared because it feels like a real person

Stop thinking about it, stop reading so much into random thoughts

it is self inflicted

It’s not a real person, that is impossible. Walk ins are not real. Things are only real if you give it attention.

absolutely

anyway that's why i keep repeating people should understand the importance of a safety valve lol

I'm trying to reject it but it's not going away I'm scared, it's messing things up in my head

And you are currently giving it attention. Right now its literally nothing, but you trying to form some kind of emotions and personality around it will make it something and that’s clearly not good for you because it is harmful. Ignore it. Focus on building the concept in your mind that it is thoughts and nothing more, visualize removing the concept of it from your mind.

I'm sorry

did you have your medication?

Yes, i haven't not taken it in months

7:12 PM

I've had a good sleep schedule and enough to eat too

It has no power because it’s nothing. Random intrusive thoughts have no emotion, no goals or personality. Do you feel guilt when you ignore every random thought in your head?

Sorta...

kei if it's getting a bit too hard for you and hard for you to focus on reading and doing what rusty is saying, get a cold shower to calm yourself down and read again what rusty said

You can ask momo and other tulpas and other aspects of the mind to fend it off

that's not going to be helpful

7:13 PM

that's just feeding it

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just ground yourself with cold shower

I'm out in public I'll try to look at some things in this store that i like

Well, it can be depending on how you do it but I feel like Kei hasn’t enforced the rules within their head to make it affective yet

can you call someone and talk to them about anything but that?

7:14 PM

when you talk to us about this you are feeding it

7:15 PM

if you manage to talk to someone about anything else your mind will calm down

Visualizing removal of thoughts or even violence against it can be helpful for some people. I have a reoccurring ‘monster’ due to my anxiety disorder and it can help a lot.

TiCtAc(✧×✧)

if you manage to talk to someone about anything else your mind will calm down

I'll talk to my brother ig

My host had a tormentor but he banished it with help

I'll talk to my brother ig

@Kei Wendt - jump that's a good idea

I have multiple characters that I visualize to take a role of a ‘protector’ that can help me massively with anxiety however Kei seems to struggle with not allowing characters to become tulpas do I don’t think that will be affective for them

@Kei Wendt Imagine a big scary anglerfish and let it monch that thing up

ehhh she needs to ground herself, not go deeper into the fantasy

I can't It looks too much like a person for me to make it die violently I just want to get rid of it gently by forcing it out of my head or something

sigh why did you give it a form

Do you consider dream characters for example people?

Rusty

sigh why did you give it a form

i didn't it appeared that way

It’s nothing, it doesn’t look like anything, it has no feelings, you aren’t hurting it

Not everything that looks like a person in your mind is one

Walk ins are not real

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Galli

Do you consider dream characters for example people?

No but i don't want to see them die violently